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Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

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Joined on 20 paź 2006
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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

28 listopada 2007 20:16

Dear Aspirin

Please can I just quote the words I actually used.

So many dancers credit IDSF with giving them their competitions.  This is simply not true. 

Is there only ONE competition in  the Netherlands?  The IDSF proudly proclaim it is the only IDSF licenced competition.  What about all the other events in which Netherland couples compete?

I agree that Holland Masters was in 2007 the ONLY IDSF licenced event.in Netherlands. and this was what prompted my remark "What about all the other events in which Netherlands couples compete..

From this I assume that when you wrote . "why is it they feel only the IDSF events are different ( better )" you were not refering to the Netherlands.

 

I know that many Netherlands dancers are quite angry at some of the "panels" they are presented with when dancing in other countries.  From my conversations with them they far prefer the WDC Adjudicators.  

 

I can absolutely understand the presentation of the Holland Masters in the format you noted.

It was presented by David Simon and Cor van de Stroet.

 Both gentleman also work with Mr. Bijster organiser of the "Dutch Open".

Both gentleman organise other (non IDSF) events in the Netherlands and receive good support. 

Both Mr. Simon and Mr.  van der Stroet are registered WDC adjudicators.

Mr. van der Stroet is President and Mr. Bijster Secretary of the Professional organisation which is the WDC member for Netherlands.

The  3 gentlemen do care about dance in the Netherlands and work very hard to ensure there are good relationships between Professional and Amateur.

 

I do hope you are not expecting Think of Me to give you answers.  On past form whener that member  cannot reply then they either disappear for a few weeks or start making quack medical disgnosisBig Smile  

 

Sadly though we are again drifting away from the main topic  -  The CDF public Announcement.

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

29 listopada 2007 08:41

I have written today an e-mail to Mr. Wong with regard to his letter.

I have advised him that I would like to make comment but I think it is courteous that he is aware of the situation. 

Will we actually now get answers to my questions?

Anyone else notice something strange about the letter?  Dated April 2003 but dealing with events in 2006!!

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

5 grudnia 2007 08:30

No  answer to my e-mail as yet.  I will wait another week and then make public my thoughts on the letter from one Canadian Professional made public.
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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

5 grudnia 2007 16:59

Mr. Wong has  not responded to the  e-mail ?Broken Heart

 

Outrageous ! Beyond the limits of what is decent and just ! Shocking in fact !

 

Is Mr. Wong ignoring you just as the others have ? Have you not written to WDC , IDSF and CDF with no response ? Are you not used to such treatment by now ? Haven’t many others ignored you, and you were unable to force their response by ridiculing and needling them publicly in this forum ? Do you not learn from the history ? It has not worked before, it is not working now, it will not work in the future.

 

And now you think you have the right to torture us, the readers of this Forum, withholding your thoughts for whole week ?

 

Someone please take an educated guess and tell me what thoughts we can expect to hear from Polkadancer .

 

While I am waiting:

Is it just possible Mr. Wong has changed his e-mail never receiving your admiration letter ?

Is it possible Mr. Wong considers letter written more than a year ago an old issue ?

Is it possible Mr. Wong does not wish to correspond with you, to have anything to do with you, and exercises his right not to respond ?

Is it possible your insistence on a reply and your promise and suggestions of a public smear campaign unless a response is received is rude, pushy, ignorant and totally becoming you ?

Is it possible the readers at large are not at all interested in what your thoughts are , yet you force it on them ?

Is it possible you are acting as a demanding and a spoiled brat when ignored by the parents during a repeated temper tantrum ?

 

PS.  you were right Dima, your

Sunshine2  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

6 grudnia 2007 07:52

Dear sunshine2

 

If you think members want to read personal attacks without connection to the topic (actually you may be one who has tried this before) then go ahead.  It certainly tells me a great deal.

I guess it is difficult for people like you who do not understand the facts behind this. and  from your reply indicate you do not understand decent stanfdarrds of behaviour.

 

However you did slip in one compliment. Thank you

sunshine2:

And now you think you have the right to torture us, the readers of this Forum, withholding your thoughts for whole week ?

I do apologise I did not realise just how important my thoughts were to you but for decency sake I must refrain.  So sorry to disappoint

 

FACTS first.  This letter was brought to this forum by another member and not me. It was offered as evidence with regard to a situation between CDF and CDDSC, and we were all supposed to be very unhappy at the "proof",

 

Well I visited the web site of the author.  I wrote to both the "andy" address and the "info" address.

If the website information and specially contact addresses are not kept up to date and relevant to December 2007   that is not my problem.  Hwever I would point out that neither mail has been returned as non-deliverable.

Whether a letter is 1, 3 or 5 years old is irrelevant.  Fact remains you wrote it.  Either stand by the words or admit you were wrong and have changed your position.

 

I do not need a personal reply. Answers to the many questions here would have been great.

I only wanted to notify the writer that their communication was being discusses on the forum.  I wanted them to be aware that I was intending to make comment. They could either reply or ignore as they chose.  However no other member could then make an accusation against me that I was making comment when the person concerned was unaware and I was annonymous.  The writer of the discussed letter certainly has my name.  . 

 

Does the writer of the letter care what I think?  Probably not and that upsets me not the least.  Having placed the letter in the public domain people  are entitled to state their position  - thats what free speech means.  We have equal rights.  I simply was courteously notifying the letter writer and giving the might of reply. IF THEY CHOSE - you see I beliueve in people having the right to make their own choices.

 

I am sure if you roll on your back Dima will tickle your tummy and ears for you..  .

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

21 lipca 2008 07:59

Do I detect a similarity between this article and the new one

Canada proposed ?Canada made a motion ?

 

Some words and sentiments are virtual duplication. 

Sambatogo mentioned this particular article when writing about the Message from the USAs top representatives. 

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

21 lipca 2008 14:38

 Dancers, dance  judges,  dance lovers,  even WDC and IDSF hold many valus in common and  share  sentiments. That's what holds us together and gives  reason to contribute here and not in some Auto-racing Forum .  I see  trends , similarity and differences.  I see  Polkdancer writer was very  active with 1132  writings till  March 2008  suddanly  replaced by awriter  a name  Berry with engines fired at max. 

   

 

 

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

21 lipca 2008 15:18

I am sorry but when I logged in I got very upset looking at a line :

21 Jul 2008, 15:18 by polkadancer

 

 

Daniel2 kindly look in you private mail box.

 

 

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

21 lipca 2008 18:34

daniel2,

Unfortunately Polkadancer passed away. There is absolutely NO correlatation between Barry and Polkadancer, just maybe the sharing of some views.

 

To everyone,

Yes, there does appear to be a similarity in the NDCA press release, and that of the old CDF press release. Lots of names used as part of a political statement. Most were not consulted, or agree to their names being used in such a way. 

Sambatogo.

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Re: Mail from Canadian Dancesport Federation.

22 lipca 2008 05:38

think of me

I am sorry but when I logged in I got very upset looking at a line :

21 Jul 2008, 15:18 by polkadancer

 

 

Daniel2 kindly look in you private mail box.

 

 

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SORRY THIS IS WAY OFF TOPIC:

 think of me.

Your words are incomprehensible . The date and time you attribute to polkadancer were in fact the date and time you were making your contribution.  

You know very clearly from Private Messages we have exchanged that I have never hidden that Polkadancer was very dear and very special to me.  I made no secret that after she was ridiculed by you in several guises for her English grammar and spelling she turned to me for assistance in that area.   It should not come as a surprise to you that we shared many common ideas and values.  I hold up my hand and admit I was completely fooled by you. I thought you were a decent and honest genuine person.

You know that my main reason for participating was to send some Private Messages to certain members and also to protect against the one cunning and evil name it later transpired you invented using the number "1"  rather than the letter "l". 

 

 Why you would now send a Private Message to yourself (daniel2) is something known only by you (and you have used this ploy previously) but probably you think it will disguise the fact that you are both think of me and daniel2 and many many others. Several of which have participated previously in this article. Your nationality changes from one name to the next and so does your use of English.  I will respect your confidence and not publicly go through the full list of names to which you admit.

 Even this last week you have invented several new identities..This is not normal behaviour..  You are so irrational that under your various aliases you agree with yourself, you disagree with yourself,  you draw your own attention to things you have read, you ask yourself questions you back yourself up and sometimes are as rude and nasty to yourself as you are to others.  Sometimes you are a whizkid speller and the next you pretend even the simplest words are beyond you and we have phonetics.

I am sorry I do not intend participating in a forum where this is carried out and where there is so much disrespectful behaviour and especially towards someone who cannot defend themselves.  Please think of me - Read again my last private message to you.  I am seriously concerned for you and you need help.

You were correct think of  me when in  a Private Message you pointed out that I had written to you that I did not intend to participate in the forum and therefore I was at fault for doing so now.  You get your wish on two counts first your provocation has worked and second I am leaving. You must be gratified that yet another genuine astute member cannot tolerate your behaviour and leaves.

This was my last posting. Good wishes to the very few more serious contributors.

I sincerely apologise to all genuine members that they have had to read this and I can only hope that you will understand.. 

 

Comment added 11.30 BST

Since my last post I have shed tears I admit. 

I asked with  sincerity certain people not to make the information public as I had no wish to see Polkadancer become a "topic". The caring people honoured this.

On the 13th March this wonderful lady passed  away in her much loved Beskydy Mountains with courage and dignity and though in great pain was always grateful for  being given the opportunity to do the many things she had. That people now defile her memory to look clever on a forum for me is unbelievable.  I can only think of 3 words  SHAME ON YOU.

Thank you Members and Goodbye.

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